Z forums . I would but I'm only a member here . My son is a welder and was amazed at the quality of all the welds on the BDE mounts when I showed him my set 4 months ago . This is the first iv seen of the AMASS crap mounts and you dont need to be a welder to see the difference . So someone get this info out to the rest . The visualization really helps understand what youre waisting your money on .